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finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our law enforcement that have stood up and said, this is our job. >> defending themselves with passion and conviction, which up to this point we hadn't seen much of in terms of defense. jim sciutto closely watched the entire hearing today. jim, what were the revelations at the hearing? >> reporter: you got the sense as you say, erin, they were just waiting to go have the chance to push back like this. they pushed back very strong here. first on spying both clapper and alexander saying that our allies spy on us, including on our leaders, that in fact the intelligence services
finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our...
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magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively trying to quash the story, manage it, when you have leaks every day, something different. they need a better strategy to kind of get in front of this, i think, be more transparent because these leaks are coming. >> hard to protect the system of intelligence gathering when that's happening, the drip, drip. >> good to see you in person. >> come down more. >> come back. >> i will. >> imagine what they're saying on the phone with the pope? i'd like to be in on those calls. >> i don't know i'd want to know. >> edward snowden, former government contractor wh
magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively...
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does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will sticking with barneys hurt his brand as a rapper? the truth is probably not. he and his wife beyonce have had a stream of other income. jay z is worth $500 million. and when you add that to his wife, they have well over a billion dollars. which brings me to tonight's number. 3.6 million. according to the luxury institute. that is the average worth of a barney's shopper. they are incredibly wealthy. and even though he may not like probably not a boycott strong enough for him to change. >>> is the site of the winter games too dangerous? >>> and new details in the case of a bo
does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will...
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. >>> meanwhile our top enteleigence officials another scandal emerges on the nsa over the accusation we are spying on our allies and dozens of world leaders. the director and deputy director of the nsa and along with the director of national intelligence james clapper and general james cole all testifying this afternoon. law makers want to know how long it is going on and who knew about it. the white house said president obama did not know that the nsa was monitoring the phone calls. >> lou dobbes makes a good point. you wonder how much of that sebelius will talk about tomorrow? >> you wonder if they know? >> or her answer every time they badger her with a question. >>> law makers looking to the answer to so many questions of what the government knew and web site. what do the web site delays mean for the implementation of the law. >>> one year ago today a monster storm settled over the northeast affecting millions of people and the recovery and progress made since super storm sandy. >>> and bringing terrorist to justice on benghazi. we'll talk on a law makers looking for that exact a
. >>> meanwhile our top enteleigence officials another scandal emerges on the nsa over the accusation we are spying on our allies and dozens of world leaders. the director and deputy director of the nsa and along with the director of national intelligence james clapper and general james cole all testifying this afternoon. law makers want to know how long it is going on and who knew about it. the white house said president obama did not know that the nsa was monitoring the phone calls....
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that was clearly the head of the nsa and not the director of national spellens. on the issue of doing surveillance on foreign intelligence leader, specifically the german chancellor, angela merkel, what they testified to today is that this kind of collection, including listening in on the telephone calls of foreign leaders, is a bedrock principle of intelligence and has been for decades, and that this is information was clearly understood by the white house, by the national security council staff, and also by people who sit on the congressional intelligence committees, which raises questions about the statements by senator feinstein, who leads the senate intelligence committee, she seemed to be unaware or was not fully briefed on the scope of these surveillance programs. >> what about the talk of possible changes in policy? >> well, probably a half dozen proposals now on the table. if i was going to break them down very simply, they sort of fall into two baskets. one really advocates taking this collection of phone records and rather than having the u.s. governme
that was clearly the head of the nsa and not the director of national spellens. on the issue of doing surveillance on foreign intelligence leader, specifically the german chancellor, angela merkel, what they testified to today is that this kind of collection, including listening in on the telephone calls of foreign leaders, is a bedrock principle of intelligence and has been for decades, and that this is information was clearly understood by the white house, by the national security council...
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they're focusing on obama care, the nsa controversy. it's a tough position for president obama and his team, but i think there are parallels in both the nsa issue as well as the obama care website. they have to release more information. it continues to be a story if they don't release the enrollment numbers. i mean, clearly, if those numbers were good, they would be out. they keep saying mid-november. >> not until november, right? that's what we just heard from her this morning. we also heard, you know, that obama did not know about spying on allies. we heard obama did not know the health care website was such a mess. is i don't know really an acceptable defense? because at some point, you know, just speaking optically, don't you start to be perceived as out of touch? >> yeah, and previously obama hasn't taken this stance. he said on a number of occasions the buck stops with me, whether it's benghazi or other issues that he had in the first term. so i don't think that's a good long-term strategy. any time you're having that discussion o
they're focusing on obama care, the nsa controversy. it's a tough position for president obama and his team, but i think there are parallels in both the nsa issue as well as the obama care website. they have to release more information. it continues to be a story if they don't release the enrollment numbers. i mean, clearly, if those numbers were good, they would be out. they keep saying mid-november. >> not until november, right? that's what we just heard from her this morning. we also...
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. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent about the issue, it is a line we cannot cross and we crossed it. >> where is the line, where should we be? >> there is a moral integrity that we have to respect. everybody has a right. you can't sell this idea that we're protecting you against the terrorists as greenwald has. the terrorists are a small group of people. and we have bugged the whole world, put all -- the hay stack is all there, and anything goes. and into the future. and that is what concerns me the most, because even if obama is a reasonable man, what if we did have a terror incident of major proportions, or there was another president that comes in, call it to the right
. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent...
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>> the president has full confidence in general alexand sxert leadership in the nsa and the rank and file in the nsa who do extraordinary work on behalf of every american season and allies in keeping them safe. the issues that are part of the review to look at how we can better balance our security needs, and the security needs of our allies against the real privacy concerns that we all share, and as i noted at the top, there has been extraordinary change, technological change in the last 10 or 20 years and certainly in the last ten or so years since 9/11, that has affected i mean, the whole world in the way that we transmit and gather information. and that includes, that has brought about changes in the way and developments in the way that we gaerth intelligence and changes in the way that those in the world want to do harm to americans and their allies operate. that has meant we have had to adapt. as we have adapted and as we adapt, we need to make sure as the president is insisting that we keep a balance that protects our security and takes into account our real privacy concerns.
>> the president has full confidence in general alexand sxert leadership in the nsa and the rank and file in the nsa who do extraordinary work on behalf of every american season and allies in keeping them safe. the issues that are part of the review to look at how we can better balance our security needs, and the security needs of our allies against the real privacy concerns that we all share, and as i noted at the top, there has been extraordinary change, technological change in the last...
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nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom for them because you do have rpz like peter king defending the administration and defending the president. there are not clear divided lines as we saw with the government shutdown and even early on with republicans who were hand in hand on fighting the health care law. >> tamron, let pe put it a different way. a lot of folks on capitol hill are all -- the more we talk about nsa and all of the glitches involved with the website and problems and flaws in the health care law, and you're for getting about the governm
nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom...
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they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be with "the baltimoresun" and i wrote back in 1985 and can say i was not shocked about any of this, but i think perhaps one of the most interesting questions these documents raise is i refer to the agency as an omnivore. they're under pressure from policymakers, from the white house, see -- cia, dod to the state department to sort of the prepared to supply information on almost anything. inrisis breaks out tomorrow an unexpected place, and nsa is under heavy pressure to produce intelligence from that place. and that combined with a big- budget in secrecy has, i think, created what actually secretary of state
they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be...
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. >> a bombshell reportthe nsa of yahoo and google. this would keep video and video from millions of users. this as an italian newspaper says even the pope would budge. good morning, elizabeth. >> good morning patti ann. the global fallout from the document leak continues. p one report is that the surveillance program was tabbing the vatican. the nsa public affairs office responding after the report was published writing in part the national security agency does not target the vatican. assertions the nsa public publid the have aing zein are not through. that isn't the only place the nsa has been putting out fires. nsa staffers were accessing the main communication links between yahoo and google. they did it globally. why would they do this? it would allow them to reach into data streams and snag e-mails video chats pictures and even more. this is a claim nsa chief keith alexander denies entirely. listen here. >> nsa does collect information on terrorists p and our national intelligence priorities. but we are not ail authorized t into s
. >> a bombshell reportthe nsa of yahoo and google. this would keep video and video from millions of users. this as an italian newspaper says even the pope would budge. good morning, elizabeth. >> good morning patti ann. the global fallout from the document leak continues. p one report is that the surveillance program was tabbing the vatican. the nsa public affairs office responding after the report was published writing in part the national security agency does not target the...
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. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me. >> any concerns? >> i don't know what's in his mind. i don't know what he's doing now. he might be in a hot tub with two russian strippers named i want to drink a lot. he's done some service, getting us to at least debate the issue and as far as stuff gone on the last week or so with the european allies being up sit, i can understand if they felt their personal cell phones were being tapped. but on the other hand, they should really climb a little bit. it's been 60, 70 years since america defended allies, especially in europe. we liberated europe twice in the last century. they never wanted
. >> james clapper on the nsa leaks. i'm back with bill. before i get to that, bill, give me a plug for the shows you got going, parole of the palms in las vegas november 2nd and 3rd. >> thank you. >> always taking it to the people, piers. >> exactly. >> we will get to vegas? not everyone has cnn. >> let's talk about mr. clapper's views. what do you think on this debate? i feel like if edward snowden lost sean penn, he has to many can be hasn't lost me....
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allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big pushback coming from this unidentified source, the wall street journal, saying the president did not know the nsa was spying on foreign leaders, put a stop to it once he found out. let's take the president at his word. why didn't he know? >> look, i have absolutely zero idea about whether he knew whether he didn't, why he didn't, or what. what i do know is spying has been, you know, as old as diplomacy itself. it is part of accepted statecraft. it's not pleasant. they don't like it, but they all know it happens. i think the issue is the publics in europe were very upset. in germany
allies saying they're furious at the alleged extent of nsa surveillance on their turf. today, the u.s. ambassador to spain was called in for a dressing down by the spanish foreign minister. a spanish newspaper publishing a shocking number, 60. 6-0 million phone calls of average citizens intercepted by the nsa in the past year alone. so joining me now, christiane amanpour, cnn's chief international correspondent and a professor at princeton university. christiane to you, first, because the big...
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
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right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the president's inbox, top of the inbox for president putin and head of china as well, the other p5 plus 1 partner as well as chancellor merkel. we are focused on what the objective here is stop iran from having a nuclear weapon. we had the last round of p5 plus 1 negotiations during the government shutdown here in washington which didn't make it particularly easy either. indeed because we are so focused on peace and security for the world community, it trumps virtually everything else. >> and what about the syrian situation and iran's involvement in syria rearming the assad regime, aren't those other is
right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the...
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have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent. so you know, i always look at it from a counterintelligence perspective. and i wish he had not gone to moscow, i wish he would have made his protests on the floor of the courthouse, there is no evidence he is a deflector, but i can assure you that the fbi and the cia are looking at that possibility, but again, there is no evidence. >> all right, appreciate your viewpoint, thanks so much to bob and ray. >>> and up next, what would a real iron man suit look like? we'll show you the u.s. military is about to launch that very thing. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the d
have they done an independent audit on what the nsa agency was looking into? no, not so far, and they should. >> so do you think -- what about snowden's leaks, bob, do you think he has been working with foreign governments, or is that allegation, to your view at this point, also not clear? >> well, erin, the promise -- i spent so many years up against the russians. and in that world, when someone goes to moscow, they're presumed guilty. not the other way around. presumed innocent....
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so, look, here's the cia, i mean the nsa chief saying these things, the nsa spying on diplomats at the request of ambassadors. what do you say about that? rick? >> i have to agree. there are a lot of am pabassado around the world that really want to know what's happening from the other side the aisle so to speak. so there's a lot of requests that go back to agency personnel. the sip pell fact is the agency personnel is only responding to the policymakers. the politicians and others feel the pressure from those in the field who want the intelligence and they're the ones who are responding. they don't make the rules. if you want to change the rules, lobby congress or get congress, the congressional oversight committees, to be aggressive. >> the challenge came from james caru rosepep, a former u.s. ambassador to romania during the clinton administration, and he now a democratic state senator in maryland. during this exchange between the two, with general alexander, he was pressing the nsa chief to give a, quote, national security justification for the agency's surveillance for combating t
so, look, here's the cia, i mean the nsa chief saying these things, the nsa spying on diplomats at the request of ambassadors. what do you say about that? rick? >> i have to agree. there are a lot of am pabassado around the world that really want to know what's happening from the other side the aisle so to speak. so there's a lot of requests that go back to agency personnel. the sip pell fact is the agency personnel is only responding to the policymakers. the politicians and others feel...
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the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry. "we have long been concerned about the possibility of this snooping" said google "which is why we continue to extend encryption across more and more google services and links." yahoo! says "we have not given access to our data centers to the nsa or any other government agency." two european delegations upset at allegations of nsa surveillance in their countries met face-to-face with the white house and the in, sa chief who told them all nsa intel gathering in europe is done in collaboration with european intel agencies. so i asked them, does that make the europeans hypocritical for criticizing the u.s.? >>
the nsa chief delivered a partial denial. >> this is not nsa breaking into any databases. it would be illegal for us to do that. >> reporter: as did a written statement from nsa to cnn saying "the assertion that we collect vast quantities of u.s. persons' data from this type of collection is not true" but the nsa did not deny it accesses links between the servers or communications of foreigners carried on those links. reaction from google and yahoo! was swift and angry....
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curbing the nsa, putting the brakes on that mass itch data collection system. >>> counting down to the winter olympics. sochi trying to get ready. >>> the head of the agency in charge of putting together president obama's health care law with the affordable health care website. >> i want to apologize to you that the website hasn't worked as well as it could. we know you need affordable coverage. we assure you that the website will be fixed. >> she had cmk the centers for medicare and medicaid services, the congress people continue to grill her, tavener says the issues should be fixed at the end of november. she is the first person to testify about the website and let's listen in. >> i'm not asking for incomes verification. if a person signs up were they offered credible employer insurance? because that's been delayed, you have to come up with a new verification tool to determine their eligibility for suns dis. if a person meets the qualifications they can't get credible insurance. >> that's correct sphwhrp if a a -- if a person is twif years old, they can get that subsidy but if they'r
curbing the nsa, putting the brakes on that mass itch data collection system. >>> counting down to the winter olympics. sochi trying to get ready. >>> the head of the agency in charge of putting together president obama's health care law with the affordable health care website. >> i want to apologize to you that the website hasn't worked as well as it could. we know you need affordable coverage. we assure you that the website will be fixed. >> she had cmk the...
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. >> reporter: but the head of the nsa warned that new limits on u.s. espionage could be dangerous. >> it's much more important for this country that we defend this nation and take the beatings than it is to give up a program that would result in this nation being attacked. >> reporter: the spy chiefs also flatly denied reports that they had collected tens of millions of phone records on citizens of spain and france. it turns out that it was spanish and french intelligence that gathered those phone records, not the united states. >> that was a quite a revelation. director clapper also talked about our allies spying on us. >> point blank, he said they do it all the time. in fact, that's why when the president decided he wanted to keep his blackberry, it went to u.s. intelligence so they could harden it. they were concerned that even here in washington d.c. that our friends and enemies could be trying to access whatever he was doing on his blackberry. >> thanks very much. >>> now to the other big fight at the white house. the president accused of breaking
. >> reporter: but the head of the nsa warned that new limits on u.s. espionage could be dangerous. >> it's much more important for this country that we defend this nation and take the beatings than it is to give up a program that would result in this nation being attacked. >> reporter: the spy chiefs also flatly denied reports that they had collected tens of millions of phone records on citizens of spain and france. it turns out that it was spanish and french intelligence...
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how the nsa hacked google and yahoo! jon: right now we're learn about a new sophisticated border tunnel that may have been used to smuggle drugs between the u.s. and mexico. investigators in recent years have found a whole slew of such passageways of the you will probably remember this one uncovered back in 2012. roughly 240 yards long running bee heneath the boredder in arizona. we're told the new discovery runs from san diego to tijuana. the feds have not confirmed what it was used for, when it was built or exactly how well-engineered it is. some tunnels are quite advanced. this one in 2012 as well was 600 yards long equipped with electric railcars, lights and even ventilation. jenna: well another story in the nsa spying saga. new reports that the feds secretly hacked google and yahoo! breaking into their highly secure data centers and stealing essentially, confidential information from hundred of millions of user accounts. this according to new documents from leaker edward snowden and they have been reported in "the w
how the nsa hacked google and yahoo! jon: right now we're learn about a new sophisticated border tunnel that may have been used to smuggle drugs between the u.s. and mexico. investigators in recent years have found a whole slew of such passageways of the you will probably remember this one uncovered back in 2012. roughly 240 yards long running bee heneath the boredder in arizona. we're told the new discovery runs from san diego to tijuana. the feds have not confirmed what it was used for, when...
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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intelligence operations acknowledging more constraints are needed and he is being criticized over the nsa tapped angela merkel's phone and snooped on other european allies and we have more. >> reporter: the practice of listening in on the phone calls of the leaders of allied countries could be about to end. in an interview president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose, to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to make sure what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean it's what they should be doing. this is prompted by reports in germany that president obama was briefed on the surveillance of chancellor merkel's known in 2010. administration officials say it's not true and a white house review only discovered the surveillance of world leaders in the summer and say the bugging of merkel's phone and soon after. a delegation from the european parliament visiting washington is worried about the surveillance of 10s of millions of its citizens and one report from spain suggests the nsa tracked 60 million calls in th
intelligence operations acknowledging more constraints are needed and he is being criticized over the nsa tapped angela merkel's phone and snooped on other european allies and we have more. >> reporter: the practice of listening in on the phone calls of the leaders of allied countries could be about to end. in an interview president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose, to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to...
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the reality is the nsa has saved thousands of lives not only the u.s. but france and germany and throughout europe. >> reporter: they say they ended the've dropping after a white house review uncovered the operation this summer but more damaging information could be coming. >> glen gleanwald of the "guardian" says another country is going to learn it was the southbound subject of u.s. surveillance. >> we're waiting word from the "guardian" newspaper to see if there's yet another revelation that could cause damage. anne-marie? >>> more trouble for the government's health care website. data experienced a failure yesterday. officials including kathleen sebelius can expect tough questions when they testify this week. jeff pegues reports. >> reporter: with the white house working on website repairs members of both parties are now talking about delays and implementing parts of the affordable care act. democrat jeanne shaheen supporting the law is leading to march 31st deadline slide. >> the rollout has been a disaster. what i'm suggesting is we expend the tim
the reality is the nsa has saved thousands of lives not only the u.s. but france and germany and throughout europe. >> reporter: they say they ended the've dropping after a white house review uncovered the operation this summer but more damaging information could be coming. >> glen gleanwald of the "guardian" says another country is going to learn it was the southbound subject of u.s. surveillance. >> we're waiting word from the "guardian" newspaper to see...
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. >>> both president obama and congress speaking about limiting the nsa's powers. spain is the latest country that was spied on by that agencies. >>> the obama administration is giving consumers more time to sign up for health care coverage, a six week extension. this will help them avoid new tax penalties. the move comes after the troubled rollout of the president's overhaul of the health care plan. that is it for your update. check us out at aljazeera.com. we will see you then. check . . lz >> >> >> >>> welcome to al jazeera america. stories. a bipartisan group of lawmakers plans to introduce a bill that could strip the nsa of om of its powers. if passed it ends the agency's ability to bulk collect phone records and restrict who it can spy on. >> fighting in syria blocked u.n. inspectors from access to two chemical weapons facilities, a setback in an attempt to rid syria of chemical weapons. inspectors did not say whether the syrian rebels or the government was responsible for the delay. negotiations for access are under way. >>> abortion right supporters in texa
. >>> both president obama and congress speaking about limiting the nsa's powers. spain is the latest country that was spied on by that agencies. >>> the obama administration is giving consumers more time to sign up for health care coverage, a six week extension. this will help them avoid new tax penalties. the move comes after the troubled rollout of the president's overhaul of the health care plan. that is it for your update. check us out at aljazeera.com. we will see you...
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and certainly they are left to deny and support the nsa themselves. they and clapper, the director of national intelligence, that is who is defending this major function that protects the united states and believe me, we would not have had no serious attack on the united states in all of these years, these 12 years since 9/11, without this agency doing just incredible work, lou, in protecting us. and yet they stand there having to take all these fuselage of assaults on them by themselves with the director trying to protect them. and it's just not right. the administration should put their arms around this, tell them to go back to work and we'll take care of this. but that's not happening. >> general, thanks for being with us. general jack keane. >> always good talking to you, lou. >>> up next, he was endorsed by tea party favorite senator rand pull, but will it be enough to overcome the political money machine? virginia's attorney general and gubernatorial candidate ken cuccinelli joins me here next. we're coming right back. did yow that if you wear a
and certainly they are left to deny and support the nsa themselves. they and clapper, the director of national intelligence, that is who is defending this major function that protects the united states and believe me, we would not have had no serious attack on the united states in all of these years, these 12 years since 9/11, without this agency doing just incredible work, lou, in protecting us. and yet they stand there having to take all these fuselage of assaults on them by themselves with...
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the nsa surveillance practices at home and abroad have been
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but in a few hours' time the director of national intelligence and the director of the nsa will face congressional grilling. we will talk with our correspondent in washington after this story by bernard smith. >>> this could be about to end. in an interview, president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose: to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to make sure what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> this has partly been prompted by reports in germany that president obama was briefed on the surveillance of chancellor angela merkel's phone in 2010. officials say that's not true and the white house only discovered surveillance in the summer and the bugging of merkel's phone soon after. the delegation that's visiting is concerned about the surveillance of tens of millions of its citizens. calls in the country in the space of a month. >> we need to figure out why this kind of activity is happening and what kind of trust needs to be rebuilt. in the end we're fighting a battle in
but in a few hours' time the director of national intelligence and the director of the nsa will face congressional grilling. we will talk with our correspondent in washington after this story by bernard smith. >>> this could be about to end. in an interview, president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose: to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to make sure what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what...
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to nsa partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information we collect it on european citizens. it represents information that collected nato allies in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. i understand you correctly, this information was collected external to the country of which it was reported in defense of operations in which nato participates. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> as you study the networks of aboutrld -- let's talk the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services to use networks you would find in any nation in the european union? >> absolutely. >> how about russian intelligence services? networksy use european inside the european union? >> yes. >> how about al qaeda? could they use networks found in the european union to plan execution of operations? >> they could absolutely. it be in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities if it was targeted at the united states or o
to nsa partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information we collect it on european citizens. it represents information that collected nato allies in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. i understand you correctly, this information was collected external to the country of which it was reported in defense of operations in which nato participates. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> as you study the networks of aboutrld -- let's talk the european...
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one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content. let me be clear. under 215 the nsa cannot listen to anyone's phonecalls. what section 215 does is allow the government to connect the dots. these dots could have been connected to prevent 9/11 and are necessary to prevent the next attack. we could have determined one of the 9/11 attackers for hijackers was in san diego and made a call to an al qaeda number in yemen. i shudder to think what connections will be missed if the program were completely eliminated. keep in mind law enforcement obtains and analyzes these types of records every day to stop organized crime and keep drugs out. we don't wan
one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content....
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what happened in those nsa hearings today? >> well, tony, the hearing ended an hour ago after an unusual three and a half hours technique. the members of the house select committee on intelligence complimented the work of the national security agency which as you know are under fire since the revelation by former nsa analyst edward snowden that revealed documents that showed that they had been listen together phone conversation or scooping up the phone numbers of conversation of american citizens. the director of national intelligence said that the information was gathered legally, and the content is only available to a handful of people. >> everything that we do on this program is audited 100%. on the business records. 100%. the da data is kept separate frm all the other data we have. it's important to understand that the leaker did not have access to this data period. >> so randall, are these hearings setting the stage for the usa freedom act, and if so what would that legislation mean? what would it entail? >> reporter: wel
what happened in those nsa hearings today? >> well, tony, the hearing ended an hour ago after an unusual three and a half hours technique. the members of the house select committee on intelligence complimented the work of the national security agency which as you know are under fire since the revelation by former nsa analyst edward snowden that revealed documents that showed that they had been listen together phone conversation or scooping up the phone numbers of conversation of american...
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the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >> does it raise the broader question that the president is out of touch? >> that's what i was trying to get at. i don't get that sense but it's your underlings have to make sure that you understand things are happening and you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases. there's no getting around that. it's an embarrassment. it happened at about the same time. people will make connections even if they are not logical connections to make. i don't necessarily think this is a president that is out of the loop. >> as i said, i agree with charles in a sense th
the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of not letting the country going into default. come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >>...
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google, facebook, microsoft and aol unite against nsa spying. they all signed on to a letter urging top senate letters to reform and increase oversight of spying programs. >>> every time we see one of these drug tunnels under the u.s. and members can border, they seem to get more elaborate. this was six football fields long with an electric railroad. they seized cocaine and 17,000 pounds of pot. >>> just when you think you've seen it all, there is this. pumpkins stuffed with cocaine. police in canada say they caught a woman trying to take three pumpkins hollowed out on a plane. upon further inspection they found four and a half pounds of coke inside. >>> lots of bleary-eyed apple fans this morning. they had to get up and get in line early to get their hands on the new ipad air. cnbc's mandy drury is here with what's moving your money. we had one of our producers who took a picture of the line in the very wee hours of the morning. what's going on, mandy? >> yeah, the retail store sales started at 8:00 a.m. this morning and of course you'd have to
google, facebook, microsoft and aol unite against nsa spying. they all signed on to a letter urging top senate letters to reform and increase oversight of spying programs. >>> every time we see one of these drug tunnels under the u.s. and members can border, they seem to get more elaborate. this was six football fields long with an electric railroad. they seized cocaine and 17,000 pounds of pot. >>> just when you think you've seen it all, there is this. pumpkins stuffed with...
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all the work of the nsa. former nsa contractor edward snowden uncovered it. it the steady drip of revelations about the u.s.'s eavesdropping agency is a full- blown gusher. spying isn't new, but cell phoes and computers are. can rules be agreed upon and binding e they have final say. the $52 billion u.s. intelligence. the white house denies an allegation that barack obama was personally briefed in 2010 about spying on the germans. will it wash? is the nsa out of control? a retired cia officer. joining us here is our guest, all about protecting companies. a lawyer specializing in intellectual property, information technology, the list runs long. and from the research center on intelligence. thank you for joining the conversation. many of you have been joining the conversation. i want to start with the latest. not washington, berlin, or madrid, but london. unless the newspapers begin to behave more responsibly, his government is likely to act to stop papers from publishing what he calls damaging leaks by edward snowden. what do you think of that? >> david camer
all the work of the nsa. former nsa contractor edward snowden uncovered it. it the steady drip of revelations about the u.s.'s eavesdropping agency is a full- blown gusher. spying isn't new, but cell phoes and computers are. can rules be agreed upon and binding e they have final say. the $52 billion u.s. intelligence. the white house denies an allegation that barack obama was personally briefed in 2010 about spying on the germans. will it wash? is the nsa out of control? a retired cia officer....
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she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it comes to transatlantic friendship and partnership. and to have someone on the other side of the atlantic who is not willing to communicate at the moment when you need to talk to each other. such things can be resolved. someone who is not willing to send someone over to germany to explain what is happening or to paris or to other places but to wait up until the moment german delegation comes to washington are tiny diplomatic steps that would be helpful installed at the right place. >> pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. >> great to
she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it...
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spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the vociferous criticism that officials have leveled at the snowden leaks and at him and the press for publishing them, it is not all about terrorism. he keeps saying loorks, they want us to believe that everything that's being leaked is just about life and death terrorism. but it's not. there are a lot of other revelations, a lot of revelations about economic and commercial and industrial espionage. there are a lot of revelations obviously which started the firestorm of protests around the world. about spying and collecting metadata from ordinary citizens. that is what really drives glen green wald r
spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the...
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surveilance is in some cases the nsa reached too far. those are the exact words used by secretary of state john kerry. lis. >> and in some cases i acknowledge as has the president some of these actions have reached -- we are going to make sure that does not happen in the future. >> congress moving to limit the nsa spying capabilities at least domestically. yesterday the senate intelligence committee approving a bill that focuses on a program which collects metapate data on telephone calls by americans. >> and evan perez is with us from washington. what kind of changes are we talking about specifically? >> well, suzanne, these are very limited changes. they're not, they're still going to be claekting this type of metadata. this is basically you know, information on what numbers you're calling. how long the call took place and that kind of thing. and right now, what the nsa is doing is collecting all of this information on almost every phone call made by u.s. phone customers and it stores this. now, this bill that was approved by the senat
surveilance is in some cases the nsa reached too far. those are the exact words used by secretary of state john kerry. lis. >> and in some cases i acknowledge as has the president some of these actions have reached -- we are going to make sure that does not happen in the future. >> congress moving to limit the nsa spying capabilities at least domestically. yesterday the senate intelligence committee approving a bill that focuses on a program which collects metapate data on telephone...
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person, the nsa cannot listen to your telephone calls and the nsa cannot target your e-mails. >> and have not? >> and have not. they cannot and have not by law and by rule. >> well, this week we're learning the nsa might have broken into google and yahoo data centers gathering users' account information and maybe e-mails. in the hot seat for reaction, glenn greenwald, he's the journalist who broke the news on the nsa snooping scandal. welcome, glenn. president obama guaranteed, guaranteed the nsa wasn't reading our e-mails. the "washington post" reported that they infiltrated google and yahoo centers so they could in fact read the e-mails. do you think president obama was misinformed or uninformed? >> no. i think neither. think he was informed but chose to tell the public things that he knew to be false. this has really been the nub of the story from the beginning. the top nsa officials lied to the congress about what the nsa does with regards to american communication and president obama repeatedly misled the public. in all sorts of ways, without warrants, the nsa is frequently moni
person, the nsa cannot listen to your telephone calls and the nsa cannot target your e-mails. >> and have not? >> and have not. they cannot and have not by law and by rule. >> well, this week we're learning the nsa might have broken into google and yahoo data centers gathering users' account information and maybe e-mails. in the hot seat for reaction, glenn greenwald, he's the journalist who broke the news on the nsa snooping scandal. welcome, glenn. president obama...
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this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and renounce nasty tactics. if it did, it's not likely that china, russia, al qaeda would follow suit. precisely because washington has to get its hands dirty, it should be smart about this. you don't stop terrorists in europe by listening in on angela merkel's cell phone. the rewards of spying on friendly heads of government are probably outweighed by the risks. and most troubling, it's not clear that many of these specific activities were clearly thought through and directed by the white house. nor do they appear to have been vetted by congress. i
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now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> reporter: senior administration officials tell cnn president obama did not know about the nsa surveillance of merkel and other allies until earlier this year. when he found out he ordered a stop to some of the programs. the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence community dianne feinstein usually an ally of the white house says that is not good enough and wants a total review of all u.s. intelligence programs. here is one explanation former vice president cheney gave cnn's jake tapper. >> we are vulnerable as was shown on 9/11. you ne
now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are...
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if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address civil liberties and privacy issues that you're not doing? >> from my perspective, no. one of the things, and i was just going to have chris add one element if i could on here to your question. >> we'd actually just described a note to ourselves, but at nsa, the annual dollars we spend on this, the 30 million, and we have 300 full-time e qif lance, but what i scribed on the note is it's everybody's job. everyone has a role to play in compliance. we bring our employees in on their first day whether military or civilian, we give them all the oath of office, tell them it's to the constitution, the whole
if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address...
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i want to focus on this nsa spying issue. the president is saying he did not know that spying of our allied leaders was taking place. which is worse. the nsa is operating without his approval or he did know and lying. >> i'll go with number one. it's a plausible deniability. our spies want to gather this information, we want them to do it but you got to isolate the president a little bit from some of the specific methods that is used to gather. so he can then later say hey i didn't know about that. >> now we're now hearing the president may stop any kind of spying against leaders of our allies. we know spying takes place. what kind of effect could this have? >> first of all be suspicious of any blanket saying we'll never do it again. because you know they want to do it again. you got to be very careful the tense is here is right. jay carney's announcement we don't do it now, we didn't do it before. english teachers across america are smiling at that lesson. they never said we will never do it again or never did it in the past
i want to focus on this nsa spying issue. the president is saying he did not know that spying of our allied leaders was taking place. which is worse. the nsa is operating without his approval or he did know and lying. >> i'll go with number one. it's a plausible deniability. our spies want to gather this information, we want them to do it but you got to isolate the president a little bit from some of the specific methods that is used to gather. so he can then later say hey i didn't know...